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Adding Pro-life

Journal Entry: Sat Feb 3, 2007, 10:46 PM


Hello everyone!

Don't forget that to be added to pro-life, we must receive a note from you. Simply adding us to your watch list, is not enough, as we will not know to add you to our watch list our member's list.

If you are watching us, but never sent us a note or we have taken long in responding, resend us a note, so we know to add you!

Thank you all and continue to create and submit great pro-life art!


This a DA group for people who want to make a stand against abortion.

The core value of this group is this: that a child inside the womb is no different to a child outside of the womb, that he or she is a human being and has a right to life. This group is open for people of all faiths, backgrounds and political persuasions. Having an abortion can be a very traumatic thing which a woman can go through, so there will be no toleration of hateful comments towards people who have had abortions or who support abortion. Members of the group are expected to abide by the Group Constitution.

The group admins are =rowanseymour, ~lilithdesade, ~linwe-calmcacil and =re-director

The complete member list is here


Who will defend those who cannot defend themselves? We need your support! If you can put the =pro-life avatar somewhere on your page, please do as this will help spread the word. To join:

:bulletgreen: Note me so I can add you to our friends list
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Only members are allowed to submit deviations. Please note this account with the url of the deviation plus the following information: title, description, keywords and category, and remember to check back here for comments on your submission.

:bulletgreen: Submissions must have a pro-life theme.
:bulletgreen: Submissions must not incite violence or hatred towards women who have had abortions or doctors who perform abortions.
:bulletgreen: The admins will refuse any submissions in violation of these rules or any deemed too graphical.



:pointr: Religious Tolerance Quality information from many different sources
:pointr: Physicians For Life Pro-life physicians providing information for the rest of us
:pointr: Democrats for Life National organization for pro-life members of the Democratic party
:pointr: Republican National Coalition for Life National organization for pro-life members of the Republican party
:pointr: Hope After Abortion Project Rachel: referrals and other help for women harmed by abortion
:pointr: Feminists for Life Promoting authentic feminism that respects life and motherhood
:pointr: The Visable Embryo A visual guide through fetal development from fertilization through pregnancy to birth.
:pointr: Birthright International Birthright International provides caring, non-judgmental support to girls and women who are distressed by an unplanned pregnancy.


Many more great sites can be found here. Images of fetuses in the womb which you can use in your own artwork can be found here.
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  • Current Residence: Worldwide
  • Interests: Defending women and the unborn
  • Personal Quote: "It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."
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~SuperGrouper:iconSuperGrouper: 23 hours 7 minutes ago
If you don't have sex, you won't get pregnant.

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=christians ~SuperWombat

Jesus Christ revolutionized my life.

My default emotion is joy. :dance: :airborne:

Yes, I'm the SuperGrouper from Project Akatsuki & Grouper-kun's YYH Stash.
~Wildgoatchild:iconWildgoatchild: May 2, 2008, 4:50:16 PM
Let me ask you this :


If for some reason, for any reason, a fully an adult male had to continually brutally rape women to survive, how many would be willing to let him live? Would you be willing to let him violate you?

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Because everyone else is just kidding themselves.
*LittleRockinDragon:iconLittleRockinDragon: Apr 23, 2008, 4:29:32 PM
Wouldn't one cell be considered life?
I mean, it is living, so therefore, it's life, right?
And since this one cell is a human cell and has the potential and pretty much is a human being.
So, yeah your killing (murding ect ect) the he/she.

Just my view on it, simple as can be.

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:blackrose: "Stand your ground, don't give in" :blackrose:

Never stand begging for that which you have the power to earn
*LittleRockinDragon:iconLittleRockinDragon: Apr 23, 2008, 3:25:19 PM
Well put :thumbsup:

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:blackrose: "Stand your ground, don't give in" :blackrose:

Never stand begging for that which you have the power to earn
*LittleRockinDragon:iconLittleRockinDragon: Apr 23, 2008, 3:22:23 PM
ok, i'm not the fisrt to comment ^^; my bad

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:blackrose: "Stand your ground, don't give in" :blackrose:

Never stand begging for that which you have the power to earn
~moodyblues:iconmoodyblues: Apr 19, 2008, 12:59:22 PM
Rapists and murderers violate the human body, but fetuses do not. They don't put themselves in the womb. They don't intend to harm anyone.

And unlike rape, pregancy itself does not "violate" a woman's body any more than eating or breathing. (That's not to say that all women must become pregnant or have as many children as possible.) It's the circumstances surrounding conception that are wrong, not conception itself. For instance, rape is a terrible thing, but the pregnancy that may result is not a disease.

I'm not sure if I explained that well enough, but meh.

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~Wildgoatchild:iconWildgoatchild: Apr 10, 2008, 7:48:53 PM
Where do you get off on telling me I'm heartless? I'm simply exercising my right as a HUMAN BEING by using deadly force to get rid of something that is violating my body.

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Because everyone else is just kidding themselves.
~eruanna-lancaeriel:iconeruanna-lancaeriel: Apr 9, 2008, 12:08:45 PM
It's really a shame you feel that way; the world needs less heartless people, not more.

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Through the day we dance and spin,
Then night comes, and we fight to win...


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~Wildgoatchild:iconWildgoatchild: Apr 8, 2008, 7:48:49 AM
If I ever, EVER have the misfortune of becoming pregnant, I WILL abort that little fucker right out of my womb, simply because I like to think of my vagina as a fetus gun, and because I don't feel like sharing my body with anyone else. Ever. And you know what? There's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Ever. Even if you conservative fucks DO manage to take away yet another hard-earned women's right, I'll jump down a flight of stairs, use a coat hanger, or get a back alley abortion. My body, My life, is my own, and there's absolutely nothing, repeat, NOTHING you can possibly do about it.


For those of you not attempting to illegalize abortion, but only wish to aid those in need, and let expectant mothers know of other options, I apologize.

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Because everyone else is just kidding themselves.
=BowChickaBowWow:iconBowChickaBowWow: Mar 28, 2008, 7:23:21 PM
Totally needed.

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Protect. Infect. Reject.
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!amyperticone:iconamyperticone: Mar 1, 2008, 3:21:44 AM
Wow! You really are a brilliant poet, aren't you?

Why don't you join the poetry contest from [link] ?


It's free and every nitwit such as myself who enters gets a small gift

but someone like you might win one of their $10 000 or $100 000 prizes.
~Glasnost:iconGlasnost: Feb 10, 2008, 12:47:10 AM
Well, many countries (including China) now have fertility rates below their replacement rates (and as countries become more affluent, their fertility rates tend to drop). At least in 2004, the United Nations was projecting that the world population will top out at 9 billion (there are probably more recent studies, but I don't have the time to look). Read about that here:
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And that article says, "Long-term estimates of population growth dropped because of declining fertility rates." As more countries choose to join the 21st century, their fertility rates tend to drop. The replacement fertility rate for a country must be greater than 2 births per mother (i.e. 2 new children to "replace" the parents), and the true replacement rate's actually a little higher (I've commonly seen 2.1).

Take a look at this list of countries by fertility rate:
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You'll see that China is below 2, which was of course their goal. I think if they would fully embrace capitalism, they'd join the more affluent countries and eventually drop below 2 without resorting to forced abortions.

However, you'll also see that many European countries are below 2, and this is actually going to become a big problem for many of them. It's a huge problem for Russia; one region of Russia even encouraged couples to take a "sex day" off from work in an effort to boost their population:
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Our world can sustain many more people than currently live here now. I just don't think that overpopulation is much of a problem.

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~LordShadowblade:iconLordShadowblade: Feb 9, 2008, 8:26:46 PM
:XD: No, no. A cloister is a place where nuns live, work and pray in a more secluded area away from the hustle and bustle of society. Typically. Though, yeah, Cloyster is a Pokemon. Though no a very good one I might add. :D

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~danmurphyiv:icondanmurphyiv: Feb 6, 2008, 5:57:35 PM
well that is just dandy. isnt a cloister a pokemon. i think it is if my childhood memory is still in check\

<img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb314/PokeSet/Jonny/Cloyster.jpg" border="0" alt="Cloyster">

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*LittleRockinDragon:iconLittleRockinDragon: Feb 3, 2008, 9:00:20 PM
yay! first one to comment!
i never knew there was a pro-life club up here on dA or else i would have joined a loooong time ago!

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:blackrose: "Stand your ground, don't give in" :blackrose:

Never stand begging for that which you have the power to earn
~danmurphyiv:icondanmurphyiv: Feb 3, 2008, 2:59:47 PM
word

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~danmurphyiv:icondanmurphyiv: Feb 2, 2008, 11:45:05 AM
yeah. its almost sickening. hopefully ill xchange

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~hollow-welt:iconhollow-welt: Feb 1, 2008, 2:39:35 AM
good thing yer just a young fella then, lots of time to change your mind.

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~LordShadowblade:iconLordShadowblade: Jan 31, 2008, 8:53:40 PM
Thank you. ^ ^ But I would like to be a consecrated virgin for life. Probably a nun. In a cloister. I think that life would suit me very nicely. :)

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"My Child, often it is safer for a man not to have many consolations and pleasures in his earthly life. Try to grasp this truth, so that you may not become sad and depressed when you cannot have what you desire.” – Jesus, “My Daily Bread”
~danmurphyiv:icondanmurphyiv: Jan 31, 2008, 6:42:15 PM
i never said it did exist and i dont intend to. honestly i live without morals.

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~danmurphyiv:icondanmurphyiv: Jan 31, 2008, 6:30:40 PM
i think i can take care of your abundance of virginity. kidding. but good call on theat. its very rare that a girl will save her self for marrieage i rwespect you very much.

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~danmurphyiv:icondanmurphyiv: Jan 31, 2008, 6:25:34 PM
well look at china. to many peolpe. not only is that affecting the people around them but us here economics enviornments everuything. i do believe a baby has a soul. and due to the fact that it may have been taken away before it was born it should still have a chnce . that soul still is alve and can be someone.

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~LordShadowblade:iconLordShadowblade: Jan 30, 2008, 2:55:52 PM
An open mind is open for the same reason an open mouth is, so when it clamps down on something good it closes on it.

Well, you're most wrong on how you think I percieve sexuality! Sex is good. Sex is wonderful. It is a gift from God. But because of our fallen natures, our concupiscence (tendency to do evil rather than good) we often use our sexuality for evil means. Like rape, for example.

Let's clarify what I mean when I say "murder." Murder is under the term the broad term "killing". It is not the same thing. You can destroy and kill a bacteria but you are not "murdering" the bacteria. Just like under the verb "having sex" there are different things. There is rape, adultery, pre-marital sex and sex in a healthy way in marriage. You may not agree with that definition of murder and you may use the term as broadly as you want, but that is what I mean by it.

I think it is a proven fact that many people suffer from AIDs. That disease is spread because of people having sex. True, there are those rare cases where it is spread by needles, etc. But the vast majority is because of illicit sex.

Interesting that you use the term "illicit sex" yet you seem to think it is not wrong. The definition is:

1. not legally permitted or authorized; unlicensed; unlawful.
2. disapproved of or not permitted for moral or ethical reasons.

Unless I suppose it's okay to do unlawful things.



And aren't YOU imposing your morals on me by telling me that MINE are wrong, archaic and simple-minded and idiotic? I sense hypocrisy here.

I will not disregard what I have been taught, any more than you will probably fall on your knees the moment you read this, profess that Christ is Lord and run to the nearest Church and be baptized and confirmed in the Catholic Church. So don't even bother asking me to destroy the moral fabric that holds me together. That would be my destruction. If I was firmly, honestly convinced that there was no God, no point in life, I might be able to hang on. Maybe. If truth herself cried out that there was no God, and everything in the universe cried it out as well, it would be the end of me. I would not live if I could not percieve a point of living. In short, I'd make a terrible atheist. :D

Besides that, I really am sorry for you. Truly. I'll pray for you dear sister. I want the best for you, whatever that means. So, I'll keep you in my prayers and I hope that you will become a dear little Saint of God! :hug:

God Bless!

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"My Child, often it is safer for a man not to have many consolations and pleasures in his earthly life. Try to grasp this truth, so that you may not become sad and depressed when you cannot have what you desire.” – Jesus, “My Daily Bread”
~lilithdesade:iconlilithdesade: Jan 30, 2008, 3:32:12 AM
Ok, honestly, I've stood away from this comment for so long (though I've thought about it from time to time) because without being overtly disrespectful, the ignorance was too much for me to want to deal with.

Regardless, perhaps I can help shine just a minuscule amount of logic on your world, or at the very least, you can become open minded enough to simply ponder another point of view. Here goes ...

... But the drug is still able to work because it alters the lining of the uterus so that it can reject the implantation of the baby.[2]
I challenge any medical endnote regardless if it is from the 'Department of Health and Human Services, Federal Register Notice' that refers to a fertilized egg or a zygote as a 'baby.' Semantics yes, but nonetheless important.

... “if you take Plan B and are already pregnant, it will not affect your existing pregnancy.”[3] How can they get away with saying this?
We are lucky enough to live in an age of rampantly evolving technology. With that said, implantation vs conception has become a new moral (for lack of a better term) foreground. Some definitions state that gestation and implantation are pregnancy, while others state that pregnancy begins at fertilization and ends at birth. Wikipedia has a rather interesting article on the implantation vs conception debate regarding pregnancy. Personally, I see nothing wrong with Plan B or most hormonal birth control and encourage it's use to deter (what you would see as standard) abortion. Stopping a fertilized egg from implanting is not akin to aborting a developing fetus. There is virtually no comparison. Human life is a broad term. I accept it's definition at conception. I do not accept the definition of pregnancy or a child at conception, but rather implantation and is ability to subsequently grow.

For years the proponents of “emergency contraception” claimed that it would reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies and surgical abortions. However, according to a review of twenty-three studies published in a 2007 issue of the journal Obstetrics and Gynecology, “to date, no study has shown that increased access to this method reduces unintended pregnancy or abortion rates.”[7]
Perhaps drawing a concrete correlation between emergency contraception and a decrease in abortion is virtually impossible due to the ambiguity of those who use EC, but it should be know that abortion rates are on the decline, and yes, I do believe EC plays a role in that, regardless of how big or small.

Really though, I'm not here to argue EC with you. Anti abortion, is anti abortion and regardless of the differences, we can all agree that killing a developing fetus in utero is wrong. Great. What really struck a cord in me is your stance on morality.

And if we are able to agree that murder (the killing of an innocent person) is intrinsically evil (always wrong no matter what) and if you can agree on that, then you obviously believe in objective morality, or morality that is always true, free of social conditioning, culture, etc, etc.

Fallacious. I do not believe that murder is intrinsically evil. Murder (which in itself is a legal term, not a moral one) can be justified. Self defense being the most obvious, but by no means, an all encompassing answer.

But when it gets into the realm of sexuality, then suddenly it’s all about, my body, my way, you have no right to tell me what to do, blah, blah, blah. So morality is objective in evey other realm besides sexuality, but once we get into sexuality, it suddenly becomes subjective? Does this make sense? No.

See, your mind has been conditioned to percieve sexuality on the same plain as an immorality - murder, stealing, etc. Sexuality, is the most fundamental basic human function, similar to walking and speaking. Controllable yes, fundamental, yes.

And if you don’t think that there is objective morality, then I don’t know why you are pro-life; because as a pro-life person what you are saying is that the murdering of innocent babies is wrong. If this is not an objective reality, and it is instead, subjective reality, then what you’re saying now is that you feel that abortion is wrong, but if other people disagree with you that’s perfectly okay since it’s all based on feelings and emotions

As a pro-life person (no killing of animals, no death penalty, no criminal wars) abortion is wrong because it compromises the innate human objective which it to propagate life. Abortion is wrong because it does not fix or seek to combat the underlying causes which allow abortion to continue - poor health care, poor education, poor birth control, cultural misogyny, etc. Abortion is but a band-aide on much larger social issues. By allowing abortion to continue and not tackling said issues, we allow women to continue to be treated like second class citizens. Abortion is wrong because human life is 'all their is' and therefore must be protected wholeheartedly.

Sexuality and abortion while interconnected are not synonymous. One can enjoy their sexuality and still remain fully protected from pregnancy or fully able to deal with an unexpected pregnancy. Again, please understand, the innate desire to fulfill one's sexuality, is NOT immoral. Disregard what you have been taught, for it is misogynistic and archaic. Being a moral, sexual human being is completely possible. As is, being an amoral sexual human. Life is full of choices.

Are you saying then that adultery is not bad? Prostitution? Other forms of illicit sex?

Personally? Adultery - bad; Prostitution - acceptable; Other forms of illicit sex - acceptable.

Adultery and other forms of illicit sex break and tear apart families, half the couples who marry get divorced!

Interestingly enough, '... 0a32zuPFpUJ:atheism.about.com/od/atheistfamiliesmarriage/a/AtheistsDivorce.htm+religion+and+divorce+in+america&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us&client=firefox-a"conservative Protestants get divorced more often than other groups, even more often than "mainline" Protestants. The fact that atheists and agnostics divorce less often than other religious groups was, however, surprising to many. Some have simply refused to believe it.' So yes, while half of people who marry divorce, much of that has little to do with 'illicit sex.' Of the most accepted general top five reasons, only adultery makes it in there, and as I stated earlier, I am against.

Fornication ruins people, all these things hurt the people who do them

That's your opinion. You cannot state that as fact. It's a pure fallacy. For every one person you show me ruined by 'fornication' I can show you one enriched by it. You're imposing your moral code onto the actions of others to suit your religious doctrine.

Perhaps they grow used to it, perhaps they are trapped and have no idea how to get out, maybe they are in a bad relationship, but they feel that if they leave they will be empty and lonely inside, etc the list goes on!

Purly anecdotal evidence, but since this last line is working off of pure emotion, why not?
I fornicate - all. the. time. Love it. It doesn't leave me feeling empty, no bad relationships, no abuse, just fornication. Sure some relationships are hit or miss, but such is life. You live and learn, with the sex or without it. To brand an entire human function as one thing, and ignore the many, many different, ways, people, places, ideas, and situations it can be used it, is the ultimate naiveness.

ll this poor people are hurting from these things! They are destroying them from the inside out! How is this not wrong? Why does the media support this?

You blame sexuality and it's 'freedom' for the ills of society, I blame organized religion and the guilt it bestows upon humans for being human. People are hurting because they are not educated, they are poor, they are hungry, they are suffering from war, disease, etc... They are not suffering because of illicit sex and fornication.

I welcome dialog with you though.
It is my true hope that you can read my words with an open mind.

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~hollow-welt:iconhollow-welt: Jan 29, 2008, 9:02:25 PM
prove love exists, show me hwo you measure it and with which units

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